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Once upon a time the first round of matches in the County Championship was an eagerly anticipated rite of passage – the clocks may have come forward and the daffodils may have bloomed, but spring could not officially be declared open until the pavilion gates had closed behind the players and umpires.It’s all a bit different these days. An exhaustive glut of international matches has drowned out those first cuckoos, and more is in prospect, with England’s Test and ODI calendar rammed to the gunwales from May to September. As a result, many of the country’s top players will once again be forbidden by their contracts from turning out for their teams. If the Wisden Cricketers’ Almanack served up a damning appraisal of the county game last year, this time around it has delivered an even more brutal snub – it hasn’t even reached the nation’s bookshelves in time for the start of the 2003 season, because publication was delayed so that the World Cup could be included.The season – in case you blinked, or have been locked in a darkened room since the first Test at Brisbane last November – actually began last week, with four of the most untrumpeted first-class matches on record, between counties and university teams. But tomorrow at 11am, the real thing begins, and on the hottest April weekend in memory to boot. It is appropriate weather for a sport that no longer believes in an off-season.That off-season does still exist, of course, although the behind-the-scenes machinations have been almost as exhausting as the winter’s international treadmill. Leicestershire have undergone a coup de shire, with eight players, including the captain Vince Wells, driven from the ground amid mutterings about lawsuits. Graeme Hick has been sacked as captain of Worcestershire, Shane Warne was appointed – and hastily replaced by John Crawley – at Hampshire. And Phil Tufnell has chosen to face his demons Down Under, on the reality gameshow I’m a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here, rather than commence a 17th season at Middlesex.But it is the structural changes to the county game that will cause the most upheaval in the coming months. Out goes the Benson & Hedges Cup, in comes the Twenty20 Cup, a mid-season, early-evening slogathon designed to attract a “new breed” of spectator, presumably the type with a short attention span. In the absence of any rest, a change will have to do, and it can only be hoped that the experiment is a success.Another change, largely to offset the loss of so many international players, is the reintroduction of two overseas signings. Not since the heyday of county cricket in the early 1980s has such a move been permitted, but much of the lustre has since been removed. When international cricket was the exception, not the rule, the likes of Joel Garner and Viv Richards, Gordon Greenidge and Malcolm Marshall would light up the county stage. These have now been replaced, for the most part, by journeymen and greenhorns although, as in all walks of life, there are several honourable exceptions.Inevitably, money matters have dominated the winter agenda. The announcement of funding cuts by the ECB – in the wake of the Zimbabwe affair – have prompted renewed speculation about the future of the county game. Glamorgan, who say they couldn’t afford to hire a second overseas player, have mooted the possibility of a cross-border merger in the not-so-distant future. The two-division Championship format, meanwhile, is entering its fourth year, and by the end of 2002, the disparity between the haves and have-nots of the county game was becoming ever more evident.The 2002 Championship was won at a canter – for the third time in four seasons – by county cricket’s millionaires, Surrey, and it is difficult to look beyond them for yet another triumph. “We’ve been favourites for every game we’ve been in for the past four or five years,” said Adam Hollioake, their hugely respected captain. “We just turn up and play.” Turn up and play, and win, of course.For Hollioake, 2002 was a year that began in desperately tragic circumstances, with the death of his brother Ben in a car crash in Perth. He took his time to return to the game, but then channelled his grief into some of the most spectacular form of his career. Surrey is a team moulded in his fervent image, and an outfit chock-full of international players can only be strengthened by Alec Stewart’s likely retirement from England’s one-day side, especially if Rikki Clarke and a rejuvenated Graham Thorpe – and possibly Hollioake himself, maybe even as captain – find themselves winging in the other direction.At the opposite end of the spectrum lie Yorkshire, beaten and broke and riven with internal policking. The very year after claiming their first Championship for three decades, they were relegated to the second division, and an immediate return to the top is imperative for their new captain, Anthony McGrath, who took over after (but not, apparently, because of) Darren Lehmann’s much-publicised PR failure against Sri Lanka.Two fixtures stand out on the opening day: Essex v Middlesex at Chelmsford, where Ronnie Irani returns to the day job and Andy Flower begins life after that protest; and Surrey v Lancashire at The Oval, which already has the look of a potential Championship decider, even with Andrew Flintoff forced to sit out the match and Harbhajan Singh threatening to miss the entire season with a finger injury. In the second division, Jonty Rhodes and Jack Russell are threatening to form the quirkiest fielding and middle-order batting partnership since Derek Randall and mountain-climbing Bruce French left Notts, and their livewire personalities could spark Gloucestershire to more than just one-day trophies.Andrew Miller is assistant editor of Wisden Cricinfo in London.

Rahul Dravid has been in fine form all series. Shutting out one end or pushing for runs, Dravid has shown the ability to change gear and control the tempo of the game. On the eve of the final match, he was relaxed and composed, and looked forward to yet another thriller. Yousuf Youhana and both coaches also faced the press:

Rahul Dravid
On losing in tournament finals
The fact is that we lost to Australia in these encounters. They are the best in the world, but we are proud that we made it to finals so many times. We are trying to improve – in the last match here on Sunday, we bowled well and I am confident that we will improve further.On the fact that the last match is a virtual final
We want to win, though I will not call it a final. It is a last match of the five-match series, and because we are level at 2-2 it becomes important.On whether the Indians were focussing on Pakistan’s strengths or weaknesses
Well, we are not focusing on what they are doing. We are focussing on our weak and strong points. Our bowlers bowled well in the first 15 overs in the last match, but we gave away too many runs in the last ten overs. This is the area of concern and we are trying to improve upon it.On the importance of the toss
If we don’t win the toss, it is not going to make much difference. I did not notice much dew when we were batting second on Sunday. Dew here is less than what we have seen and played under in places like Chandigarh and Cuttack. In Cuttack the ball had turned into soap, that is not the case here.On Tendulkar’s non-performance in finals
It is not a question of one individual. We all have not done well [at times]. We play so much one-day cricket nowadays that not getting runs in two or three matches is not surprising. Sachin, being a high-profile player, gets more attention – but others also fail.On Pakistan’s bowlers
They come hard at us but we are not complaining. They have conceded a large number of extras. More extras help us, and I hope they will continue giving them to us!On whether India missed Anil Kumble and Harbhajan Singh
We do miss bowlers of the experience of Kumble, Ajit Agarkar, Harbhajan and to some extent Srinath [retired]. Their absence pushes us back, but that is no excuse. In international cricket you have to take such things in your stride.On why Zaheer Khan was being used as first-change
Zaheer is a good bowler and has done well as a third bowler, but why we are using him as third bowler is a matter of tactics and strategy, which I cannot explain. This may not be a satisfactory answer, but it is like that.On whether India are overwhelming favourites
Definitely not. We never thought we were favourites, leave aside overwhelming favourites. We have no illusions about ourselves. We know our strengths and weaknesses.On the wider importance of this game and this series
From the players’ point of view it is only the game. We go to play and win. This is our objective and we are focussed. We are not carrying any baggage. We will try to win the series.Pakistan’s vice-captain Yousuf Youhana
On whether there would be a change in the bowling attack
I don’t think we will make any change. They [the seamers] have done their job well, though wides and no-balls remain the area of concern. I am sure they will get over this problem. We are not missing Saqlain [Mushtaq], in the sense that Shoaib Malik is bowling well and besides that is also a good fielder and a useful batsman. I see no point in making a change for the sake of change.On whether there was extra pressure because Shahid Afridi had not delivered
I don’t think so, because in Rawalpindi he [Afridi] made things easy for the team and me. He is a batsman who can change the complexion of the game in few overs.On Shoaib Akhtar’s fitness
He is fit. There is no problem with him. He is a matchwinner and I am confident he will deliver tomorrow.Pakistan’s coach Javed Miandad
On Sunil Gavaskar’s comment that the Indians were chokers
I hope they continue that way [laughs]. We never underestimate the opposition. Let us see what happens tomorrow.On the Pakistan batting
I never expected my team to do so well in batting. India have been playing well and put up a commendable show in Australia recently.On the series
I have played long enough and seen matches all over the world, but I can say with authority that never before has such a series been played. So far it has been good and positive cricket, but tomorrow is a crucial game and I am sure the boys know the importance of the game. Everybody is looking forward to this match.On the fact that Pakistan’s bowlers have gone for runs in this series
The Pakistani fast bowlers are the best in the world. The series is not over yet and we have a long way to go. So it is too early to predict about the series or comment on the bowlers.On the big scores in this series
This is now the trend all over. The wickets tend to help batsmen. The Indians played on different wickets in New Zealand, which were criticised all over, and even New Zealand admitted that those pitches were not up to standard. There are no such tracks here. The runs have been scored and chased. It has been a thrilling and entertaining cricket, though I admit that bowlers have suffered.India’s coach John Wright
On the importance of this series
Winning a series in Pakistan will be a big achievement for India, because India has never won a series in Pakistan.On the extra pressure of playing against Pakistan
It is not an ordinary series, and also playing in Pakistan puts a lot of pressure on the players, but so far they have withstood the pressure well.On India’s fast bowlers
Of course, there are various opinions that India has a tradition of producing world-class spinners, but no-one can say the same about fast bowlers. I think that this impression has to change, and the young fast bowlers have to change this thought-process. I am sure the Board of Control for Cricket in India will take a note of this.On what he expected from his team
I can tolerate lack of performance but I will not tolerate lack of effort. I have no time for people who fail to prepare for an innings, and also do not have the energy to sustain a fightback. I have great difficulty with short-cuts and cannot compromise on effort.On what he was thinking when India were 95 for 4 in the last match
It is irrelevant what I was thinking. The players spoke to each other and discussed the great wins they had in the recent past. There was a self-belief in the camp that they would actually make it in the end.On the efforts of Rahul Dravid and Mohammad Kaif
I am always in favour of taking people with big hearts and courage in the team. I am also glad that some of the players have the elements to do well consistently. If you are working with the team, you know who can work under pressure and who can come out successfully. The greatest frustration is when the selection panels do not listen to these views and sometimes ignore them.On India being a side in transition
We are only halfway through the process of making a world-champion side. We still need to improve a lot. The good news is that the boys are extremely hungry for success. They share a very cordial relationship among themselves. The senior players, the captain and the other members in the side are always together, and make an effort to extend helping hands to each other. In other words, we keep it very simple.

South Africa, Kenya, the West Indies, New Zealand and Sri Lanka will all be praying the rain gods spare their remaining matches in Pool B because if any of them suffer uncompleted games their chances of making the Super Six will be gone, unless the rains affect more than one match.As it stands at the moment, the West Indies needed to beat Sri Lankaafter their rain affected match against Bangladesh. The West Indies last match is against Kenya and they should be too strong for them, despite all that has happened in this tournament – and what happened when these two sides met in 1996. If they beat Kenya it would leave the West Indies on 14 points.Should Sri Lanka win against South Africa they would end on 20 points and finish at the top of the group. That would mean South Africa would be left on 12 points. If Sri Lanka lose to South Africa they would finish on 16 points.The best New Zealand could do is finish on 16 points – whether that isenough depends on Sri Lanka’s fortunes, and whether Kenya can beatBangladesh.South Africa, quite simply need to beat Sri Lanka to keep their chancesalive. But South Africa would have to hope that Bangladesh had beaten Kenya, because if South Africa, Kenya and New Zealand ended on 16 points, and Sri Lanka, having beaten the West Indies to also be on 16, South Africa would go through, and it would be left to Kenya, New Zealand and Sri Lanka to contest the final two positions.The competition rules state: “When more than two teams have equal points and equal wins, the team which was the winner of most number of matches played between those teams will be placed in the higher position.If still equal, the team with the higher net run rate in the group matches will be placed in the higher position.If still equal, the team with the higher number of wickets taken per balls bowled in the group matches in which results were achieved will be placed in the higher position.”So, in effect, a mini-league would come into operation with results between the relevant teams the deciding factor. Then, should teams still be equal, it would come down to run rate, followed by wicket-taking rate. If teams cannot be separated in any other way, the ICC has made an allowance for lots to be drawn.And then there is the damage that rain could do.Pool A is a little more straightforward, but not by much.Australia are guaranteed a place in the Super Six by virtue of having 20 points already. However, India could also finish on 20 points if they beat Pakistan in their final group match.India have 16 points at the moment, while England could also reach 16 points if they beat Australia. The interesting thing from England’s point of view, however, is that England could beat Australia and still go out of the tournament, or lose and make progress to the Super Six. Their fate is in the hands of others.England, India, Pakistan and Zimbabwe all retain an interest in those two places alongside Australia, for all can get to the 16-point mark.Remember, if just two teams finish level on points, the number of wins is the first deciding factor, then the result between the two teams concerned. It is only when more than two teams finish level on points and they have all beaten one another that run rate comes into play.Even run rate is not a simple calculation. It is not a case of merely dividing the runs scored by the overs taken to accumulate them. It is the average number of runs per over scored, less the average number of runs per over conceded that produces a net run rate.And then there is the added complication that if a side is bowled out inside its full allocation of overs, the run rate for the batting side’s innings is calculated as if all the overs had been bowled. On the other hand, the bowling side takes only the actual number of overs bowled when calculating the run rate conceded.To get back to the possible permutations, if Zimbabwe beat Pakistan, they move to 16 points. If Pakistan beat Zimbabwe and India, they move to 16 points. If England find themselves level on points with either India or Zimbabwe for the last qualifying place, England go out on the basis that they lost to both in the group matches. If level on points with Pakistan, having both had the same number of wins, England go through having won the match between the two sides.The form line for the remaining matches suggests that Australia will beat England and India will beat Pakistan. However, this is a match that involves far more than just the allocation of points and it would be difficult to make a conclusive comparison on form alone, but it would make the Zimbabwe v Pakistan fixture extremely interesting.If this form has prevailed right through to the very last of the group matches, Zimbabwe would go into the game with 12 points and Pakistan with eight. England would have 12,India 20 and Australia 24. A Pakistan win would move them onto 12 alongside England and Zimbabwe with all sides having the same number of wins and having beaten each other. The run rate comes into effect.And, as we said about Pool B, it would only take a little bit of rain to throw the whole equation into confusion. Or perhaps that should read “even more confusion.”

Mark Ramprakash is in line to return to the England squad after he was forced to withdraw from the First Test side because of a hamstring strain.With England badly needing to bolster their middle order for the Lord’s Test, the Surrey right-hander is almost certain to be named in the squad to be announced on Sunday.He hit a half-century against Yorkshire in the C&G Trophy this week and is poised to play in the Benson and Hedges Cup final tomorrow against Gloucestershire.”I was very happy to get through the game on Wednesday,” said Ramprakash.”I still have trouble with the leg, I’m still aware of it and I’m looking afterit, but if I’m picked for next Thursday I should be all right.”Things have gone well with the injury since I came back and I’m just lookingforward to playing as much cricket as possible at the moment.”It was very disappointing to miss out on the last Test but if I make it backin the squad this time, that would be a fantastic consolation.”Ramprakash, who averaged more than 40 on the last Ashes tour, would add much needed experience to a middle order that folded badly at Edgbaston where Usman Afzaal was making his debut and Ian Ward was playing in only his third Test.His main rival for a place would probably be his former Middlesex team-mate Owais Shah, though he was overlooked for the First Test in favour of Afzaal.And coach Duncan Fletcher is reluctant to throw in too many inexperienced players at the same time – particularly against the might of the Australians.England could also be boosted by the return of Graham Thorpe who resumed training yesterday after a five-week lay-off because of a calf injury.Though he would go into the game desperately short of match practice, the selectors might feel his experience and form before his injury would compensate for that.With skipper Nasser Hussain and batsman Michael Vaughan both out until at least the Third Test, England suffered another setback this week with the loss of Matthew Hoggard through a stress fracture in the foot.It is possible that his Yorkshire colleague Chris Silverwood could be brought in as cover for the pace attack. And Robert Croft may be added to the squad as cover for Ashley Giles who has been suffering for some time with a sore Achilles heel.Squad (possible): Atherton (capt), Trescothick, Butcher, Thorpe, Afzaal, Ward, Ramprakash, Stewart, Giles, White, Gough, Caddick, Croft, Silverwood.

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Saqib Ali, the United Arab Emirates captain, rattled up 195 to boost his team’s second-innings total to 306, but a target of 61 proved all too easy for Ireland on day four of their ICC Intercontinental Cup clash in Abu Dhabi.Ireland duly knocked off the required runs with nine wickets in hand to gain 20 points from this game, which put them at second place in the tournament’s points table.Saqib, resuming the final morning on 98, brought up his fourth first-class hundred without fuss. Along with Zahid Shah, batting at No. 9, he continued to delay the inevitable. The two added a further 100 to UAE’s overnight score of 186 for 7 before Greg Thompson, the legspinner, ended Zahid’s 166-ball vigil. Zahid’s 28 included four fours and a six, and he put on 159 runs for the eighth wicket with his captain.Saqib, meanwhile, stood head and shoulders above his team-mates. He scored nearly 64% of UAE’s total, moving past his previous first-class best of 142, but was cut agonisingly short of a maiden double-hundred. He fell to allrounder Alex Cusack, who took his fifth wicket of the match. Saqib’s 195, compiled off 358 deliveries and with 24 fours and four sixes, won him the Man-of-the-Match award.UAE batted out 62.2 overs on the fourth day, but Ireland’s first-innings lead of 246 meant they needed only 61 to complete the win. William Porterfield made an unbeaten 40 as the defending champions sealed victory in 14.2 overs for the loss of one wicket.Ireland now have 49 points and remain 17 behind Kenya, with one game in hand. Ireland’s next match is not until July 9, against Netherlands at a to-be-announced venue. UAE’s disappointing campaign will end with a match against Netherlands in Sharjah starting April 3.

Andy Flower, the Essex batsman and former Zimbabwe captain, has yet to receive a confirmed date for his comeback following the surgery to correct his injured hip.”I’ve had my treatment in Germany to accelerate the healing of the cartilage,” Flower told Essex’s website, “and I’ve had two injections over the last two weeks, with one more to come. At present we can’t put a time on my playing return.”Following the appointment of Peter Moores as England head coach, a promotion from his time as director of the National Academy, there has been speculation that Flower might assume the Academy role.”Having been out of the country I’ve not seen the recent press speculation but at the moment all I am thinking about is playing,” he said. “That said, it is fair to say coaching is an area I am looking into for my future once I retire from playing.”

Ravi Shastri, the former Indian allrounder and current commentator, has expressed his faith in India’s experimentation tactics as they attempt to win in the Caribbean for the first time since 1970-71. Shastri has also applauded the Indian management’s decision to breakaway from a mindset of old, opt for youth and not allow any player to take his place for granted.”The Indian team has made giant strides in the one-day game because they have identified roles for every player,” Shastri told the website, gulfnews.com. “The coach, the captain and the selectors need to be complimented for thinking along the same wavelength. Their selection of a bunch of youngsters has made the team one of the best fielding sides in the world. India will be playing one of the weakest West Indies team in recent years. The challenge before India lies on how well they perform in Test cricket during the next two years.”Shastri, 43, firmly approved of India’s recent experimentation. “Whether it is [Sachin] Tendulkar or [Rahul] Dravid, make it clear that no one owns a batting position…one has to play according to the situation of the game, even if it demands that [Mahendra Singh] Dhoni bat at No.3 or open the innings,” he said. “Irfan Pathan and Dhoni have shown tremendous maturity. Yuvraj Singh is now batting like a bomb. He should have been batting in the present slot nearly one year ago. Unfortunately, the Indian team was not prepared to be flexible earlier.”As for the experience of senior players, Shastri said it came down to the overall composure of the team. “You need to go back to experienced players only if there is a vacuum and there is no talent. If your strategy is to look into the future, then you need to give the youth a chance,” he clarified. “They need to be ruthless in selection and no player should be considered indispensable. It is the player’s current form that should be the criteria for selection. We are a country obsessed by records. For us, hundreds, ten thousand runs, and large haul of wickets are more important than the performance of the Indian team.”In Australia, the emphasis is not on how many centuries Ricky Ponting makes, but on Australia’s winning streak for the last ten years. India has given too much emphasis on players’ records than on the actual performance of the team,” he said. “Its not worth scoring thousands of runs if your team keeps on losing. Fortunately the trend has started to change now. India has always been a good one-day team, but in Test cricket we need to go a long way. Twice recently, when it got a little hot in the kitchen, India crumbled. Both in Karachi and Mumbai, it all happened within a span of three hours. [Greg] Chappell’s biggest challenge will be to get India do well in Test cricket.”

After the second day of their match against Manicaland at the beautiful, if often damp, Mutare Sports Club, PG Timbers Mashonaland had played themselves into an unassailable position.Belying their reputation of starting many of their matches at half pace, they hammered a mammoth 640 runs before declaring, statistically just inferior to their own Logan Cup record of 644 scored against Matabeleland last season, but more impressive as this time they had only four wickets down as against nine on that occasion.Mashonaland’s top scorer was Craig Evans, aged 33 and at his peak of maturity as a batsman. Last season he hit 210 here to lead an incredible fightback that brought his team an astonishing victory after following on. This time he exceeded that with an unbeaten 228, still hitting powerfully but showing that extra discretion that has brought him 912 runs in his last six Logan Cup matches. Evans, in the past considered a one-day specialist at international level, last played a one-day international two and a half years ago, but is determined to win back his place for the coming World Cup.Evans was assisted by two maiden centuries. Dion Ebrahim already has a one-day century to his credit, although Bangladesh as opposition are at present nothing to boast about, but this was his first century at first-class level. He might have made it a double, being 178 overnight, but was able to add only four runs to that score on the second morning.The other was by Tatenda Taibu, who seized his opportunity due to Andy Flower’s being unwell. It was a particular pleasure to see him scoring an unbeaten 114, and hopefully this will add to his confidence and help him to score the runs of which he is capable at international level. Evans shared partnerships of 284 and 226 unbroken with these two.The captaincy of Henry Olonga, posted to Manicaland by the Zimbabwe Cricket Union simply to strengthen them for the Logan Cup, came under some criticism. His bowling changes at times showed lack of imagination and he maintained an attacking field for much too long. With the batsmen well set and on top on a shirt-front pitch, he would have been expected to guard his boundaries better, but instead his unrealistically close fields allowed the Mashonaland batsmen too many easy runs. Still, it is a better fault than being too defensive, but the field must match the situation.As the innings continued well into the second day, the Manicaland fielders wilted, and although they missed no chances – neither did they received any on Day Two – there were too many misfields, the bowlers lost accuracy, and in the end Evans and Taibu were scoring virtually at will. The declaration came just after lunch, and the overall scoring rate was nearer five than four to the over. Off-spinner Richie Sims set an unwanted record by becoming the first Zimbabwean bowler to concede 200 runs in an innings in domestic first-class cricket, but he bowled better than his figures suggest and suffered more than any from too attacking a field.In reply Manicaland did not collapse, but neither did they fill their boots on the fine pitch. Neil Ferreira, always the backbone of the Manicaland batting, cannot succeed every time, but he survived a torrid opening spell from Gus Mackay and his 42 did give his team a solid start. Four other batsmen passed 20 but failed to capitalize, the top scorer being Alistair Campbell with 62.Stuart Matsikenyeri and Guy Croxford should have seen out the day, but neither showed the discretion warranted, and Croxford finally gave his wicket away in disappointing fashion just before the close. Barring some remarkable performance – and Guy Whittall, the one man likely to provide it if anybody did, is out injured – Manicaland seem doomed to follow on and slide to an innings defeat.

Michael Vaughan"It still hasn’t sunk in. It’s just an amazing achievement. It’s all down to a lot of hard work going back before Christmas. There’s also a lot that goes on behind the scenes. Duncan Fletcher, the coach, and Troy Cooley, the bowling coach, have been great, as have the physios and the masseuse. I’m also pleased for the five guys who didn’t play. They’ve put in a lot of hard work. It was a team effort.""We were looking down the barrel yesterday, but a great innings from Graham Thorpe got us back in the game. I’m delighted for Matthew Hoggard too. To get a hat-trick in Barbados is something special and to finish the game in three days with 10 to 20,000 Brits behind us was fantastic."Graham Thorpe"It probably rates second behind my hundred at The Oval [against South Africa last summer] on my comeback. This is as good as it gets, we’ve played well as a team with a good blend of youth and experience. To get a hundred at Barbados is a fantastic achievement. I was grateful to them [Simon Jones and Stephen Harmison] for helping me to my hundred. All in all, it was a great team effort."Brian Lara"We need to get back to the nets. Again we didn’t bat very well. We struggled with the ball swinging in and away from us and we need to work on it. We now have to regroup. The guys are in shock. We haven’t lost to England here for 36 years and the guys will be hurting. We need to get it together and get going in Antigua."